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Webboard: Antispam algorythm
b***@mnogosearch.org
2013-12-11 15:59:24 UTC
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Author: fasfuuiios
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Currently it looks like there is no way to stop indexing of spammed
sites. Link spammers even spam this board automatically from time to
time. That software is very pluggable and can be adapted for any type
of cms and submit forms.

I thought about global dirty solution that could haunt spam during
indexing process. Here is the idea.

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Say we have new option for 3.4 + versions:

ExternalLinkCount [maxlinks] [maxpages] [nofollow]

maxlinks is the limit for external links on page. (Spammers are trying
to add direct links for pagerank etc.)

maxpages is the limit for probably spammed pages on same host.

nofollow is true or false. Filter only spam pages with or without
rel="nofollow"

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Examples:

ExternalLinkCount 20

This will delete any page which has more than 20 external links.

ExternalLinkCount 20 20

This will automatically ban and remove site that has more than 20
pages where each page has more than 20 external links.

ExternalLinkCount 20 20 true

This will do previos thing with and without nofollow links.

ExternalLinkCount 20 20 false

Only for direct links that play with pagerank etc.

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This is not ideal. It can cut normal pages. But those webmasters who
use nofollow as google recommended are rather safe. This can cut blog
pages with tons of good comments.
Big scientific pages, catalogs and wikis are not probably safe from
such dirty filtering.

Anyway this is probably the simplest way to catch those sites that
have tons of spammed pages. With high limits it could probably help.

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Example of site that is currently under spam attack. It generates
thousands of such spammed pages. That is why I thought about this
problem in very basic but cruel way.

http://www.gksbeton.ru/index.php/peremychki-pb/item/35-novost-1/35-
novost-1?start=400


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b***@mnogosearch.org
2013-12-11 16:11:22 UTC
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Author: fasfuuiios
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I'm not completely sure that it's good idea but probably it is better
than nothing at all to stop this. Of course, it needs tests and
analysis. I believe that normal html page has no more than 5 external
links. Currently even paid links are usually limited to 3, and they are
located inside of article to avoid google filter penalties etc.

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John McCormac
2013-12-12 15:08:08 UTC
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Post by b***@mnogosearch.org
Author: fasfuuiios
Currently it looks like there is no way to stop indexing of spammed
sites. Link spammers even spam this board automatically from time to
time. That software is very pluggable and can be adapted for any type
of cms and submit forms.
One approach would be to build a table of problem/spam links. Then if a
site has any of these toxic links, either drop the website or add the
toxic link to a regexp.
Post by b***@mnogosearch.org
I thought about global dirty solution that could haunt spam during
indexing process. Here is the idea.
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ExternalLinkCount [maxlinks] [maxpages] [nofollow]
maxlinks is the limit for external links on page. (Spammers are trying
to add direct links for pagerank etc.)
From work I do every month in TLD web usage surveys (measuring how
websites are used in TLDs and the percentages of active/holding
page/PPC/redirects), link spam is either comment form or cracked
Joomla/Wordpress spam links. Comment spam can be be blocked with a
regexp. The injection link spam may be invisible to ordinary browsers
but visible to search engines due to CSS rules. These sites often use an
old version of Joomla or Wordpress or a vulnerable plug-in. But they do
not have many outbound toxic links. And these toxic links generally
change each month.
Post by b***@mnogosearch.org
This will delete any page which has more than 20 external links.
Most news sites will have more than this as they will have a network of
their own sites, analytics, advertising, social media and other links.
Web directories still exist and they typically have more than 20
outbound links per page.

(Will post more later.)

Regards...jmcc

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